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		<title>By: BK Drinkwater</title>
		<link>http://www.fr33agents.com/1369/the-corporatist-diaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>BK Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sacramental wind license?!? This just keeps getting better.</description>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
		<link>http://www.fr33agents.com/1369/the-corporatist-diaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2384</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regret to report that yes, you do understand point (1) correctly.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://data.opi.state.mt.us/bills/mca/16/4/16-4-201.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the law&lt;/a&gt; regarding the quota for &quot;all beverage&quot; licenses in Montana which are the license that includes hard liquor.  There are some other types of licenses for beer and wine only, other miscellaneous stuff, and I found out today that we even have a sacramental wine license.

It is quite ridiculous to look at the Montana Department of Revenue&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://mt.gov/revenue/forbusinesses/liquordistribution/learnaboutliquordistribution.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page on liquor distribution&lt;/a&gt;.  See all that bullshit about state control of alcohol promoting moderate consumption and deterring alcohol abuse?  Well as it turns out, Montana is one of the worst states in the United States for drunk driving on a per capita basis.

In my little town of about 900 residents here in Montana, you can get a to go cup for any beverage at any bar in town.  Butte is infamous for the streets being filled with drunken revelers on St. Patrick&#039;s Day like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAAqo2V8E8&amp;NR=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I regret to report that yes, you do understand point (1) correctly.  <a href="http://data.opi.state.mt.us/bills/mca/16/4/16-4-201.htm" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the law</a> regarding the quota for &#8220;all beverage&#8221; licenses in Montana which are the license that includes hard liquor.  There are some other types of licenses for beer and wine only, other miscellaneous stuff, and I found out today that we even have a sacramental wine license.</p>
<p>It is quite ridiculous to look at the Montana Department of Revenue&#8217;s <a href="http://mt.gov/revenue/forbusinesses/liquordistribution/learnaboutliquordistribution.asp" rel="nofollow">page on liquor distribution</a>.  See all that bullshit about state control of alcohol promoting moderate consumption and deterring alcohol abuse?  Well as it turns out, Montana is one of the worst states in the United States for drunk driving on a per capita basis.</p>
<p>In my little town of about 900 residents here in Montana, you can get a to go cup for any beverage at any bar in town.  Butte is infamous for the streets being filled with drunken revelers on St. Patrick&#8217;s Day like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAAqo2V8E8&amp;NR=1" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BK Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see if I understand point (1) correctly: the great state of Montana enforces a hard-liquor cartel. Wow.

And then there&#039;s the wonderfully rueful tone in the last sentence: &quot;extremely tolerated and even legal in some locations&quot;. In the small New Zealand town were I grew up, I wouldn&#039;t say the public drinking was positively encouraged, but the local cop did always look at you funny if you were walking around without a bottle in your hand. He thought it was a sure sign you were up to no good. That said, I grew up in an unusual and much-mocked small town.</description>
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<p>And then there&#8217;s the wonderfully rueful tone in the last sentence: &#8220;extremely tolerated and even legal in some locations&#8221;. In the small New Zealand town were I grew up, I wouldn&#8217;t say the public drinking was positively encouraged, but the local cop did always look at you funny if you were walking around without a bottle in your hand. He thought it was a sure sign you were up to no good. That said, I grew up in an unusual and much-mocked small town.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Big business&quot; in Montana is somewhat smaller than elsewhere, but this week after being unable to purchase Port wine at a grocery store, I discovered this is exactly the reason why.  Owners of bars and casinos basically have a stranglehold on the liquor situation here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/the_politics_of_drink/13961/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Politics of Drink&lt;/a&gt;.  Some of the consequences:

1.  You cannot get a new liquor license in Montana.  The only way to sell hard alcohol is to buy an already existing license.

2.  You cannot buy hard alcohol in a grocery store- only a state liquor store or at a bar (many of which sell bottles as well as shots or mixed drinks).

3.  You cannot buy Port wine in a grocery store because the alcohol content is slightly too high per the law.

4.  Craft brewers in Montana are restricted as to the alcohol content of the beer they brew.  It was so ridiculously low that they did manage to get the legal limit bumped up a bit this year so their products could compete with out-of-state craft beers.

All of this is extra-super-uber-ridiculous in a state where public drinking (e.g. drinking an open beer out on the sidewalk) is extremely tolerated and even legal in some locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Big business&#8221; in Montana is somewhat smaller than elsewhere, but this week after being unable to purchase Port wine at a grocery store, I discovered this is exactly the reason why.  Owners of bars and casinos basically have a stranglehold on the liquor situation here: <a href="http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/the_politics_of_drink/13961/" rel="nofollow">The Politics of Drink</a>.  Some of the consequences:</p>
<p>1.  You cannot get a new liquor license in Montana.  The only way to sell hard alcohol is to buy an already existing license.</p>
<p>2.  You cannot buy hard alcohol in a grocery store- only a state liquor store or at a bar (many of which sell bottles as well as shots or mixed drinks).</p>
<p>3.  You cannot buy Port wine in a grocery store because the alcohol content is slightly too high per the law.</p>
<p>4.  Craft brewers in Montana are restricted as to the alcohol content of the beer they brew.  It was so ridiculously low that they did manage to get the legal limit bumped up a bit this year so their products could compete with out-of-state craft beers.</p>
<p>All of this is extra-super-uber-ridiculous in a state where public drinking (e.g. drinking an open beer out on the sidewalk) is extremely tolerated and even legal in some locations.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BK Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real genius—the majesty—of this process is how it gets sold to the public. It&#039;s about &quot;saving our jobs&quot; from &quot;multinationals&quot;. It makes me want to puke. Then stab. Them puke again.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many already-big businesses have figured out, &quot;Why commit an anti-competitive act yourself and draw fines and penalties, when you can manipulate the government into committing it for you without penalty?&quot;  It&#039;s only when big business teams up with big government that people have reason to worry about it.</description>
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		<title>By: BK Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished slogging through the math. While it&#039;s nice to have some sort of theoretical backing for part of my argument, I think I still prefer sarcasm.</description>
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		<title>By: J Nick Puglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Nick Puglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, BK.  I even have trouble convincing confirmed news junkies and generally thoughtful people that regulations on business are exactly what the big, entrenched corporations want.

Well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice work, BK.  I even have trouble convincing confirmed news junkies and generally thoughtful people that regulations on business are exactly what the big, entrenched corporations want.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Thanks, bk!

Even if anti-dumping rules aren&#039;t abused so transparently as in this case, they still represent a significant entry barrier which does far more to harm competition than augment it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://ideas.repec.org/p/kln/iwpdip/dp03-01.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a paper&lt;/a&gt; you might like. I&#039;m too dim to understand all the math.</description>
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<p>Even if anti-dumping rules aren&#8217;t abused so transparently as in this case, they still represent a significant entry barrier which does far more to harm competition than augment it. <a href="http://ideas.repec.org/p/kln/iwpdip/dp03-01.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a paper</a> you might like. I&#8217;m too dim to understand all the math.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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